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  1. Famous Physicists on Mysticism #2: “The Debate Between Plato and Democritus” by Werner Heisenberg


    It was here in this part of the world, on the coast of the Aegean Sea, that the philosophers Leucippus and Democritus pondered about the structure of matter, and down there in the marketplace, where twilight is now falling, that Socrates disputed about the basic difficulties in our modes of expression and Plato taught that the Idea, the form, was the truly fundamental pattern behind the phenomena. The problems first formulated in this country two and a half thousand years ago have occupied the human mind almost unceasingly ever since and have been discussed again and again in the course of history whenever new developments have altered the light in which the old lines of thought appeared.

    If I endeavor today to take up some of the old problems concerning the structure of matter and the concept of natural law, it is because the development of atomic physics in out own day has radically altered our whole outlook on nature and the structure of matter. It is perhaps not an improper exaggeration to maintain that some of the old problems have quite recently found a clear and final solution. So it is permissible today to speak about this new and perhaps conclusive answer to questions that were formulated here thousands of years ago.

    There is, however, yet another reason for renewing consideration of these problems. The philosophy of materialism, developed in antiquity by Leucippus and Democritus, has been the subject of many discussions since the rise of modern science in the seventeenth century and, in the form of dialectical materialism, has been one of the moving forces in the political changes of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. If philosophical ideas about the structure of matter have been able to play such a role in human life, if in European society they have operated almost like an explosive and may yet perhaps do so in other parts of the world, it is even more important to know what our present scientific knowledge has to say about this philosophy. To put it in rather general and precise terms, we may hope that a philosophical analysis of recent scientific developments will contribute to a replacement of conflicting dogmatic opinions about the basic problems we have broached, by a sober readjustment to a new situation, which, in itself, can even now be regarded as a revolution in human life on this earth. But even aside from this influence of science upon our time, it may be of interest to compare the philosophical discussions in ancient Greece with the findings of experimental science and modern atomic physics. If I may already anticipate at this point the outcome of such a comparison; it seems that, in spite of the tremendous success that the concept of the atom has achieved in modern science, Plato was very much nearer to the truth about the structure of matter than Leucippus or Democritus. But it will doubtless be necessary to begin by repeating some of the most important arguments adduced …

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